If you've been with us since the days of Supergirl.tv first getting started, you know we do these sites as a labor of love. While some of our sites do include minimal advertisements, we try and keep them off as much as we can. So when an opportunity like speaking to Alex Garfin, our very own Jordan Kent comes up, you know that not only are we excited for the site, we are excited as fans! Alex was kind enough to give us a big chunk of his time so we could explore out those yet unfound Easter Eggs, seek out behind the scenes hilarious moments, and boldly go where all fans want to go (to the Kent farm just North of Bellingham, WA). Our sincerest thanks to Alex Garfin! Follow him on Instagram at @alexgarfin. Our full conversation below:

Supermanandloistv.com: All shows had to deal with the pandemic, but Superman and Lois had to go so far as to shut down for a while. What is filming in a pandemic like? How did you all adapt?

For me, being in the pandemic was definitely difficult. I feel like doing anything in this pandemic, especially workwise, it's a lot like running underwater. It's just something constantly dragging you down. Kind of like in a dream where the scary guy shows up and you never seem to get away. So, it really did make it all a bit more of a drag, but in that time the cast got to know each other better.

I think the physical burden of COVID ended up landing on the crew a lot because they all had to wear N95 masks during hot days, cold days, and also not able to see because the eye protection would fog up from the masks. I think the mental and psychological burden definitely was rough on the cast, and the fact that we were away from my family so long. In the end, we all got together just to make something good, and so happy to be a part of this project because it's Superman! And really, you can't beat Superman, right?

I mean we have all these IPs, but I do think Superman has something special. It has this cool place in society.

Supermanandloistv.com: Could you elaborate on that?

Superman goes back almost ninety years now, and it was such a central figure in Americana history. The thing about Superman is that I always thought that he adapted well to his times. He came out of the Great Depression, a time when one needed hope, as this hero. Then through World War II became a symbol of patriotism. Through the 1950s, he became very nuclear, and represented that nuclear household that was the ideal at the time.

As we progress into now, I really think this show shows the complexities of Superman because we have an identity crisis in America—we aren't exactly one identity anymore. So, it's Superman dealing with the personal problems in small town American, which I think was really cool.

Supermanandloistv.com: Tyler Hoechlin has said he is more of a Batman fan, which has allowed his version of Superman to shine. Were you a Superman fan going into the show's production?

I’m in Tyler's camp, although, I do have to say Tyler has never seen any of Superman properties in order to keep Superman his own. With Jordan, Indie, and my brother (he was up there with us), the four of us frantically watched the original Donner film because everyone kept referencing it, and we had no idea. Like, we really did not know every single shot of that movie because we saw it maybe when I was like, ten?

The truck getting lifted up? In the script Superman lifts up the truck, a lot like the original shot from the Donner film. I didn’t realize what that necessarily meant in the fact that in the Donner film, baby Superman is looking over Jonathan Sr. and Martha. In this Superman, it is full grown Clark lifting it over his wife and kids.

There's a lot of really cool things that I got the reference to after doing that. I think the comic book fans got a lot of that at some level as well.

Supermanandloistv.com: Yeah, it was. It's really fun. And even if you don't know all of the Easter eggs, you can Google it and it's something new to find out.

You know, I don’t know if this is online yet, so this is an exclusive right here! The set team and I are messing around in the pilot when we're in the Brownstone. If you look on the blackboard with the chalk, the phone number for Dr. Donner, actually, Dr. Don, the phone number was the original release date of Superman. Maybe it was a directorial decision? I'm not exactly sure, but I remember them telling me that and I was like, “Oh, that's really cool. Let me underline dates.” So yeah, no one seems to have noticed that yet. That's an exclusive right there!

Supermanandloistv.com: That’s amazing! I'm going to have to re-watch it because Easter eggs are really fun to find.

Eventually it started getting less related to comics. Jordan Elsass and I are super close in real life. There's sometimes when he has a screwball idea on set, and we just wanted it to show. Like in episode six, when they're doing the Jordan training scene, I punched the log. I told Jordan it would be really funny, while Clark is on the phone call, Jonathan punches the log and really hurts his hand thinking that he could do it? It was really a whole little scene going on in the background that they kept in, which I’m so thankful for!

In episode thirteen, there was a whole period of time when I kept doing that stupid thing where I pointed at Jordan’s shirt and I flick up his nose. I was doing that for like two or three weeks of our lives. I got really good at it, too! I started finding clever ways of doing it.

I started going, “How come we got all that stuff on your costume?” Then he’d look down and I’d flick him off. I’d also just stare at that spot on his chest until eventually he gave it a look down. I fully worked that into the show as well! I believe they kept that in the kitchen scene as we’re walking out. Look at the background, especially with Jordan and I, there would be some funny things going on.

Supermanandloistv.com: Wow, so you got so good, you didn't even have to use your finger. You just could mentally…

I could fully do telekinesis doing that stupid trick to Jordon! Eventually, he started getting a little more annoyed with it. Which, the big brother in me was happy, the coworker in me was like alright, I’ll lean off, but it was really fun.

Supermanandloistv.com: As brothers they have their fights, but they're not jealous of each other over superpowers. It could’ve gone so easily into a “your brother turns evil out of jealousy” thing.

Yeah, and the great thing about this writing team is that they can touch on real problems, problems that are external, that put pressures on the family. Maybe you start to see some cracks rather than, you know…I don't want to use this word, but sometimes “contrived.”

If they really gave up, Lois would just stop listening to Clark, and then they'd have whole issues about being away from home too much. But at the end of the day, even when they had that discussion in episode four it was like: I know I shouldn't be angry right now, I know you're doing all these things, but I'm feeling this way. Then Clark would say: I'm feeling this way. All of a sudden there's no issue between these two characters because they are communicating like adults. It's amazing, and you’re not bored because there are actual problems going on. That’s a testament to the writers that Jonathan didn’t get as jealous of Jordan as he could’ve.

Supermanandloistv.com: So, there's long shoots and late nights. What other ways were you killing time on set, other than getting your coworker to look down at his shirt?

I was doing school for this whole first season, so I really did not have time to kill. School was online because of COVID, which was a blessing for me personally. I didn't have to fly back for a gym credit, but yeah, I didn't have that much free time when I was shooting. The free times that I did have, I liked to explore the nature around Vancouver. It's a rain forest. It’s very beautiful!

In the beginning of episode six when Jordan was running away from Tag, that’s actually the same little bridge that Jordan and Sarah go to. I don’t know if it was supposed to be canon or not, but it was the same set. Everything around Vancouver looks like that. It just looks like a magical fairytale land, so I'm exploring around there more, and I go up there with Jordan a lot.

Supermanandloistv.com: Apart from Superman and Lois, is there another Arrowverse show you'd like to guest star on?

Oh my god, I'd love to do what David Ramsey did! He just went to all of them, and even directed. I don't know the official standing on crossovers with our show in particular, but if it were up to me, it would be a lot of fun to do some crossovers and meet all these people anyway.

Supermanandloistv.com: @JohnMon85 asks "Which Superman power would you chose in real life"?

Honestly…I think flight would definitely be the coolest, right? I’ve always wanted to travel, so I would see how far away from the sun I could get, and going to see if I can get to Jupiter. It'll probably take like two or three days at Superman speed to get to Jupiter? I don't know, it's his exact speed in relation to the speed of light, but that would be pretty cool. If Kryptonian speed is that much, I could go “Star Trekking.”

If I had to choose a less obvious power, I would go with ice breath. Because I would be the supplier of all cool drinks for the rest of my life. It’s a hot day, the cooler is just done for, the ice is melted—just blow on that real quick and we have cool soda for everyone!

Supermanandloistv.com: That would've been great during those heat waves!

I am going through a heat wave right now here in New York. You know, that's what's on my mind right now, some ice breath.

Supermanandloistv.com: @_Nadia25 asks "what was your favorite scene this season now having seen it on screen"?

Oh, good question! Actually, I really did enjoy Sarah and Jordan out back in the barbecue in episode fifteen. I thought it just turned out really well. We only had maybe 10 minutes to shoot that scene because the sun was in a perfect place. The EP was running around with his scoper and all the cameras were running around because, it was such a perfect spot with the sun. The director, Tom Cavanaugh, made everything click and we got a really great take out of it. It was just awesome.

Supermanandloistv.com: @mc02l asks "How difficult or easy was it learning to fly on wires"?

That was definitely a challenge. If you see in episode nine, I'm having a little bit of a struggle because I never actually got up there yet. After that, I took it upon myself to do a lot of core workout every day. I worked with Rob Hader, our awesome stunt director, to make sure that everything does go smoothly because I got a little warning in advance about episode fifteen when I first heard about Zeta-Rho. No one told me about Zeta-Rho, I just heard tricklings that I was turning evil.

Supermanandloistv.com: Speaking of playing Zeta-Rho in the last few episodes, what was that like?

Oh my god, it was so much fun! I get that rush of a new character, and I think a lot of actors get that rush right after they get that new role. It almost felt like that. The fact that I got to play a completely different character, I really wanted it.

Tom and I really wanted to work out that if you were to put the TV screen on mute, you’d know exactly when he is Zeta or Jordan just by his body language and his mannerisms. So, it was really cool to try to make two very polar opposite characters while looking exactly the same.

Supermanandloistv.com: Out of the whole cast that makes up the Kent family, you are still Twitter unverified. What's up with that?

I have no idea why I’m not twitter verified…oh, my mom is saying I didn't pay for it or something. Honestly, I don't use my Twitter really that much. I use my Instagram a lot, but not really in a “celebrity-ish” way. I just post whatever I want. There's a lot of Danny DeVito up there, and I think I just reached 50k, which is again, very bizarre because a year ago I wasn't really anything.

My post was, you know that meme where the guy's reaching for the light and then something comes in from behind me just looking back? It was just me reaching towards posting Danny DeVito because I think it's funny, and then the guy behind me is like me now actually having 50K, there’s a possibility to actually notice this and not know what's going on.

Supermandandloistv.com: If you met Danny Devito face-to-face, would you give him an egg in this trying time?

[Laughs] Yes! Of course! Yes! l would offer him an egg in this trying time!

The stage is set, the players are known, the final deceptions planned or executed! Zeta-Rho has found his way back into the world and he's taken over one of the most important things Superman and Lois have, their son Jordan! Jordan, already having half Kryptonian powers might be further enhanced by Zeta-Rho's consciousness. How can Superman bring himself to fight his own flesh and blood? Will John Henry Irons be able to hold back The Eradicator long enough for Superman to reach Jordan? What does Lois, Jonathan, Lana, and Kyle have planned to keep Smallville from losing it all? Tonight is the season finale of Superman and Lois' landmark first season! Here's what stood out to us:

1. Jordan Gone: Superman, Lois, and John search all night with no luck. Superman leaves to find him on his own. Lana and Kyle rush back to the scene of the car accident and rescue Jonathan and General Lane. As Leslie is being put back in prison, Lois demands to speak with her. Leslie gives a snide remark, and Lois shoves her against the wall. Leslie warns Lois of upcoming danger that even Superman can’t save. General Lane, Jonathan, and the Cushing family make it back to the DOD base where civilians are protesting. Kyle asks if they should leave, and Lana decided they should stay and help the town. Superman calls out for Jordan from space and hears a response.
2. The Defense Counsel: The protestors realize that the army hasn’t left because Edge is still out there. Morgan Edge floats behind the townspeople. Superman finds Jordan, who doesn’t seem to recall what happened. Zeta-Rho reveals himself through Jordan and attacks Kal-El. Zeta battles Superman, but Superman continues to call out for Jordan. Steel attempts to stop Morgan Edge, who is glowing blue. A shockwave knocks Steel to the ground, and Edge takes several soldiers, turning them into Kryptonians. Sam orders the evacuation of Smallville. Lois implores Superman to let Lois and Jonathan assist.
3. Divide and Conquer: The Eradicator is too strong for Superman to take out. He will have to work with Steel to stop him but that leaves Jordan unsaved. Lois and Jonathan will attempt to save him pleading to Jordan to defeat Zeta-Rho's consciousness. As Smallville begins to evacuate Zeta-Rho, the defense counsel and The Eradicator head for the mines where Kryptonite is. Superman and Steel prepare to engage them all.
4. The Battle for Jordan: Superman and Steel are able to get Jordan away from the others and Steel takes him to the farm so Lois and Jonathan can attempt to save him. Jonathan has weapons that can kill him aimed on his brother. Lois attempts to invade Jordan's mind to draw him out. Zeta-Rho has buried Jordan deep into the subconsciousness. This has allowed Zeta-Rho to subsequently attack Lois and Jonathan. Jonathan is forced to fire on Jordan. It isn't enough and Jordan attacks Jonathan as they both try to pull Jordan out. Lois is able to get to Jordan finally and Jordan casts out Zeta-Rho! Meanwhile, Superman and Steel are able to dispatch the security counsel and at nearly the cost of his life, Steel is able to throw the hammer fast enough to destroy The Eradicator while Superman holds him. Superman saves Steel from his free fall.
5. Cleaning Up Smallville: As the town begins to clean up, Superman addresses the world and explains who Morgan Edge was and what happened in Smallville. Superman gives the credit of saving Smallville to the town itself and we cut to a summer cookout at the Cushings. All seems to be forgiven and the town is in their corner again. Lois buys half of the Smallville Gazette from Chrissy using the money they got from selling their home in Metropolis. John Henry Irons and General Lane share a moment and we learn The General is stepping down from active duty to be with his family. Irons tells Lois he can't stay on the farm because she reminds him of his wife too much. Sarah and Jordan confirm they love each other in the fields on the farm.

In the final wrap up moments, The Kent Family buries the Crystal that held Jor-El's consciousness. As the Kents go to say goodbye to John, a pod arrives out of the sky and Natalie Irons emerges!

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For 15 weeks (on and off for a few hiatuses) this show has constantly delivered gut-punching twists and solid characters that have truly honored the Superman legacy! Tonight was no different! In the penultimate episode of the season, Superman and Steel fought a cinematic battle in Metropolis that would rival any seen on the big screen! What was even more insane is that wasn't even the season finale! The Eradicator has proven his hold over what Morgan Edge aka Tal-Rho was and what's worse, he's taken Jordan to turn him into Zeta-Rho! What are a father and mother to do under these insane circumstances? Get a preview for the season finale below!

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Tonight is a special night for us. You may know we cover several of the CW superhero shows and we've become quite close with several of these newer style Arrowverse shows. Superman and Lois set a new bar for Arrowverse shows to achieve  and it is only met in tonight's new lead in, Stargirl! Both shows are simply incredible and these two powerhouse shows seem to be the future of The CW! If you are a Stargirl fan, don't forget to get our recap of the season premiere at our sister site Stargirl.tv! Looking to Smallville, the very thing that Lois said would happen seems to have happened. With Edge no longer backing the city with his investments, houses are foreclosing, businesses are failing and there is still the looming threat of what Edge might do when he returns! There was a lot that stood out in tonight's penultimate episode here's our recap:

1. Can't Have it Both Ways: The Smallville Gazette releases a new issue criticizing the DEO of their stay in town. Clark and Lois visits Lois' father and have a fight about the upcoming town hall and telling the truth. Jonathan visits Steel in his workshop and notices the firefly decal and upsets Steel by responding with “awesome” over memories of his daughter. 
Clark visits Lana, their family put their house up for sale. Clark asks her to stay as the heart of Smallville. Crissy tells Lois that she is selling the Smallville Gazette to a large new corporation. Her debts are too much and she has no other choice but to sell.
2. Town Meeting: Jordan and Sarah are treated differently now that the Cushings are public enemy number one. Jonathan and Jordan are invited to a town under siege party but Sarah is going to hang back. At a town hall meeting, General Lane and Lois begin to answer the town's questions when The Eradicator arrives. He is after Leslie Larr and it doesn't look like anything can stop him. Back at the town meeting, Sharon Powell arrives to call out General Lane over the death of her son. The meeting breaks down when General Lane gets word of the attack from Edge and he is forced to leave.
3. Metropolis: Edge has gone to Metropolis to attack the city that has the most meaning to Clark and Lois. Jordan misses a call and Jonathan is willing party over being responsible due to his chat with John Henry. Lana and Kyle start to think about staying when Kyle gets an offer in a town two hours away. Sarah calls him out and storms off. Back in Metropolis, the Eradicator is fully formed. It seems he needs to only touch a person to impart Kryptonian consciousness on them. With the Eradicator, there is also Leslie Larr and four others there to attack the city!
4. Battle for Metropolis: Superman heads off to deal with the Kryptonians in the business district. He is able to take one out and takes on another. Steel fights Leslie Larr and another Kryptonian. He is seperated from his hammer, slowing his attack abilities. Back at the party, Jonathan talks with Tegan who tries to be sincere about her liking Jonathan. Sarah heads to the party to find Jordan and talk about the move. The party is interupted with news of the battle in Metropolis. Lois heads to the roof where she begins to tell the story of what is happening just like on John Henry's Earth. Instead of Superman floating behind Lois, its Leslie Larr this time with both Jordan and Jonathan watching on TV.
5. Steel to the Rescue: Even though he might not have been able to save his Lois, siding with Superman on our Earth allows Steel to save Lois before being killed by Larr. Jordan and Sarah discuss the difficulties of moving apart. They are worried about the long distance. General Lane arrives at the party to pull out his grand kids. Sarah goes too. While Superman and Lois work to figure out where the Eradicator is going, it becomes clear that he will make more subjects and Jonathan, Jordan, General Lane and Sarah are on the other end of his attack.

In the final wrap up moments of the episode, Jonathan, Jordan, General Lane and Sarah are all in the flipped SUV. The Eradicator has taken Jordan and left Jonathan and a badly injured General Lane. Superman hunts the entire world to find Jordan but he can't. The Eradicator has implated Zeta-Rho in him!

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